Megyn Kelly and Bill Maher got into rhetorical arguments several times Friday night as the two discussed various topics. Unsurprisingly, her views on Donald Trump caused the most controversy, with Maher repeatedly calling the former president a “fascist.”
However, Kelly was ready to answer.
MAHER: I’m not saying you don’t have any sense. I’m just saying it’s strenuous for people to understand why what isn’t a democracy is the border problem, and you’re right, they’re screwing it up. Back [to] all the things he said and all the people in his government who said he was a fascist, he wanted to be a fascist, his friends were all dictators.
KELLY: I don’t care at all. Not at all.
MAHER: Because?
KELLY: January 6th wasn’t good.
MAHER: Wait, why aren’t you interested in this at all?
KELLY: Because they’ve been saying this about Trump for years, they’ve been saying this about Republican candidates for years. It has a long history. If you’re at all on the center or center-right, you’re used to the candidate of your choice being completely demonized, be it the F-word, the R-word, or the misogynistic word.
They tried to convince us that Mitt Romney was a raging sexist because the file folders were full of women. They tried to convince us that John McCain was a raging racist even though he had adopted a daughter from Bangladesh. They did this for every Republican and they come to Trump and we don’t listen to them anymore. Trump has inflammatory rhetoric, no question, but we have four years to judge him and the country has done pretty well, unlike the four years we had with these two.
This is a central issue in the 2024 election, and I argue that things are going badly for Democrats. As Kelly points out, everyone has heard it all before. At some point, and this point was a long time ago, a “boy who cried wolf” situation arose. You can only call someone a fascist so many times before people want to see actual evidence, and people badmouthing on MSNBC won’t qualify for that.
Trump was president for four years. If anything, he was at times too gentle when it came to exercising legitimate executive power. He wasn’t a fascist, and those who still say that seem irritated. Worse, they are distracting. Voters are concerned about issues that affect their everyday lives. The ongoing attempt to turn this race into a referendum on “democracy” is not working for Democrats because it makes them appear delusional and out of touch with reality.
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Maher further attempted to turn things around by claiming that the economy was doing great and that Trump’s economic success was the result of Barack Obama. It took about two seconds for Kelly to realize the inconsistency in that statement, prompting Maher to change the subject again.
MAHER: Well, I mean, I could disagree with that too. If Trump had this economy and I could look through all the stats, the stock market would have gone through the roof, wages would have gone up.
KELLY: Not as high as under Trump.
MAHER: Well, first of all, Trump inherited someone else’s economy.
KELLY: That’s what Barack Obama would like us to think.
MAHER: Well, it’s true. Really, everything changed on day one?
KELLY: So explain to me. So Trump has Obama to thank for his economy, but Biden can’t thank Trump for anything?
MAHER: Okay, let’s get this over with…
Because Obama is a raging narcissist, he is promoting Kamala Harris by claiming he is responsible for the economy under Donald Trump. There’s just one problem with this logic. If it were true, then that would mean Trump is responsible for the economic success under Harris and the Biden administration. You can’t have it both ways, and Maher had no answer when called upon.
Yet he simply could not silence fascism. He was like a dog, whining the same thing over and over again.
MAHER: These are the dictator countries. There is a feeling here like in the Second World War, when the dictators came together. I mean, did Hitler and the Japanese have anything in common during World War II? Nothing, except that they saw the world one way: fascism.
They all had to do it their own way. Iran is a fascist country for its own reasons. One could also say that this also applies to China, Russia and Saudia Ariaba. Somehow the world seems to be split between the good countries, the democratic countries, and these autocracies, and if your man gets involved, we’ll be on the wrong side of this.
I’ve never become as large a fan of Maher as some others on the right, and here’s why. Sure, he says some good things about transgenderism, which we’ll get to in a moment, but overall he’s still a left-wing idiot. China is a fascist country? Why is the largest communist nation on earth a fascist country? And how are the fascist countries of Iran and Saudi Arabia doing? Does Maher believe that fascism is synonymous with dictatorship? Last time I checked, Russia is the birthplace of mainline communism, but Putin, a former KGB member who longs for the return of the Soviet Union, is now also a fascist?
Words have actual meanings, but because they are used so frequently, fascism no longer means anything. This handwriting has been exaggerated, and while Maher’s left-wing audience eats up everything he says, the broader electorate has become numb to the stupidity.
As Kelly goes on to explain, perhaps Maher should take some time to examine the results rather than arguing on sweeping generalities that largely make no sense.
KELLY: Trump didn’t apply the DOJ to take action against his political enemies. That was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
MAHER: Well, we had Hitler in the ’30s and everything was fine, and then we had Hitler in the ’40s and things got a lot worse. Just because we had him…
KELLY: Oh, I see, he hid his Hitlerism for the first four years and will come out in full force in the second four years.
MAHER: Well, he tried to do things like that. He tried to do dictatorial, fascist things and was stopped.
KELLY: Joe Biden has broken the law when it comes to these student loan forgiveness programs.
MAHER: Really, you’re talking about…
KELLY: He violated the law, violated Supreme Court opinions that openly told him he didn’t have the right to do that, and he openly said, “I’m going to bypass the Supreme Court.” He did it in relation on rent relief programs, exactly the same thing, and then he and Kamala Harris unleashed that Justice Department on their political enemy Donald Trump, their biggest rival for the presidency. Is it amusing? Because they did. You want to talk about fascism? This is fascist.
MAHER: I don’t think history will favor your point of view, but I appreciate you being back.
Maher’s intellectual dishonesty is clearly evident in this exchange. He rejects Biden’s lawlessness and disregard for the democratic structure, but does not name him anything that Trump allegedly did something with his presidential power that could be considered “fascist.” It’s just a meaningless buzzword.
Meanwhile, it is Biden and Harris who have used the Justice Department to try to do this Jail her main political opponent before a major election. The audience laughed at Kelly’s claim, but they wouldn’t have laughed if it had been Trump who did that while in office, and everyone knows that. Does the rule of law play a role or not? Because if Democrats can only make decisions based on what they believe poses a “threat to democracy,” then the rule of law no longer has any meaning.
However, as I mentioned earlier, there was a moment of agreement between Maher and Kelly.
KELLY: Almost as essential, maybe even as essential, is what we do to our children with this trans madness. I mean, that’s almost my only problem. We chop off the well body parts of diminutive children. Oh, 100 percent, we’ll do that…
MAHER: Well, we definitely do, so I don’t know what the booing is about…
KELLY: Me neither, watch out because I’m about to give you a truth bomb. Children who are bullied or sexually abused, or who are going through normal puberty and feeling physically uncomfortable will say to their parents, “I’m not sure, maybe I’m gender confusing.”
They will send them to a psychiatrist or a psychologist to whom our organizations, the American Psychiatry Association and everyone else who administers their credentials will tell them, “You must confirm, confirm is the only standard.” And so the child is told, “You “You’re right, you’re secretly a boy or vice versa.” And the child is given puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones that sterilize the child and deprive him of any chance of sexual pleasure for the rest of his life.
We’re talking about nine, 10, 11 year olds who can’t give informed consent and then have their body parts cut off by a medical facility and parents who mean well but believe in these doctors, and they should not , and when they inevitably get past the awkwardness of puberty or whatever and want to turn around and transition out, they let those who love bombard them on Reddit and say, “Come on in, the water is.” OK,” let down. You are depressed. They have forever changed their bodies in ways that are irreversible, and we all sit back and say, “That’s a faraway problem,” as Kamala Harris says. It’s not remote. It is the issue of our time, both in terms of children’s and women’s rights.
My thanks to Maher for managing to be on the right side of at least one issue, I suppose. However, I still see him predominantly as an intellectual lightweight who limits himself to repeating hysterical slogans when challenged. Kelly took the win in this exchange.

